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		By: Thoughts on the 2020 Democratic presidential primary &#8211; Unexpected Values		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Thoughts on the 2020 Democratic presidential primary &#8211; Unexpected Values]]></dc:creator>
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					<description><![CDATA[&lt;p&gt;[&amp;#8230;] Now, how do we actually estimate ? We need to model the fact that if a candidate is really unlikely to win &amp;#8212; or almost guaranteed to win &amp;#8212; a vote for that candidate isn&amp;#8217;t all that likely to change the probability that they win, as compared to if the outcome is very uncertain. The best way I know of doing this is to think of a vote as changing the odds &amp;#8212; rather than the probability &amp;#8212; of a candidate winning by a constant factor. That is, if the odds of a candidate winning are , then an additional vote for the candidate changes those odds to  for some small  independent of the candidate. This model is well-motivated by Bayes&amp;#8217; theorem. [&amp;#8230;]&lt;/p&gt;]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[&#8230;] Now, how do we actually estimate ? We need to model the fact that if a candidate is really unlikely to win &#8212; or almost guaranteed to win &#8212; a vote for that candidate isn&#8217;t all that likely to change the probability that they win, as compared to if the outcome is very uncertain. The best way I know of doing this is to think of a vote as changing the odds &#8212; rather than the probability &#8212; of a candidate winning by a constant factor. That is, if the odds of a candidate winning are , then an additional vote for the candidate changes those odds to  for some small  independent of the candidate. This model is well-motivated by Bayes&#8217; theorem. [&#8230;]</p>
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		By: Best online resources for Data Science		</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 14 Jan 2021 11:21:10 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[&lt;p&gt;[&amp;#8230;] https://betterexplained.com/articles/understanding-bayes-theorem-with-ratios/  Bayes theorem explained through the caveman [&amp;#8230;]&lt;/p&gt;]]></description>
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		By: Chuck Anesi		</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 23 Jan 2019 13:05:25 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[&lt;p&gt;Good article.  However, a clearer and more intuitive explanation can be given using a simple tree graph.  For example, &lt;a href=&quot;https://anesi.com/bayes.htm&quot; title=&quot;https://anesi.com/bayes.htm&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow ugc&quot;&gt;https://anesi.com/bayes.htm&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Good article.  However, a clearer and more intuitive explanation can be given using a simple tree graph.  For example, <a href="https://anesi.com/bayes.htm" title="https://anesi.com/bayes.htm" rel="nofollow ugc">https://anesi.com/bayes.htm</a></p>
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		By: Steven Scott		</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 08 Nov 2017 02:10:47 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[&lt;p&gt;In the spam filter example, how is it that the old odds were just multiplied by the new odds, instead of first calculating the evidence adjustment (as in the deer/bear example) of each word and then multiplying that by the old odds? &lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;To me, it appears the &#039;hello&#039; evidence adjustment is 1:9 ((3:3) / (9:1) = 1 / 9 = 1:9), so, when the spam filter sees an email message with &#039;hello&#039; the initial 9:1 old odds of it being spam adjust to 9:1 * 1:9 = 1:1 (old odds * evidence adjustment = new odds).&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;Therefore, the following evidence adjustments...&lt;br /&gt;Hello = 1:9&lt;br /&gt;Darling = 1:45&lt;br /&gt;Buy = 1:6&lt;br /&gt;Viagra = 1:3 (when occurring in 1 normal email)&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;...so, &#039;hello darling&#039; would result in a final adjustment of 9:1 * 1:9 * 1:45 .&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;Doesn&#039;t seem right, can someone explain?&lt;/p&gt;]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In the spam filter example, how is it that the old odds were just multiplied by the new odds, instead of first calculating the evidence adjustment (as in the deer/bear example) of each word and then multiplying that by the old odds? </p>
<p>To me, it appears the 'hello' evidence adjustment is 1:9 ((3:3) / (9:1) = 1 / 9 = 1:9), so, when the spam filter sees an email message with 'hello' the initial 9:1 old odds of it being spam adjust to 9:1 * 1:9 = 1:1 (old odds * evidence adjustment = new odds).</p>
<p>Therefore, the following evidence adjustments...<br />
Hello = 1:9<br />
Darling = 1:45<br />
Buy = 1:6<br />
Viagra = 1:3 (when occurring in 1 normal email)</p>
<p>...so, 'hello darling' would result in a final adjustment of 9:1 * 1:9 * 1:45 .</p>
<p>Doesn't seem right, can someone explain?</p>
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