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		By: kalid		</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 26 Jul 2019 22:13:40 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://betterexplained.com/articles/how-to-understand-derivatives-the-quotient-rule-exponents-and-logarithms/#comment-567560&quot;&gt;Fahim Huq&lt;/a&gt;.

&lt;p&gt;This was a tricky example. Starting with our function h(x) = x^x, we want to take the derivative. We have the power rule for the derivative of things like x^2, x^3, etc. But we don&#039;t have a rule for how to take derivatives where the variable is the *exponent*, not the base (2^x, 3^x).&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;The closest is e^x, where we know d/dx e^x = e^x.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;So, if we can rewrite our exponent (x^x) into something that looks like e^foo, we know we can take the derivative.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;Because e and natural log are inverse functions, they cancel each other out. So we have:&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;x = e^[ln(x)]&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;It&#039;s like taking the square of the square root: you get the original number back (e.g., x = [ sqrt(x) ]^2 ).&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;From here, we say&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;x^x = [ e^[ln(x)] ]^x&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;where we replace the first x (the base) with e^[ln(x)], then take that to the x power. This simplifies to:&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;e^[ln(x) * x]&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;which is something of the format e^foo. Now, we can finally take the derivative:&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;d/dx e^foo = d/dx foo * e^foo&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;where foo = ln(x) * x. The (1 + ln(x)) term is d/dx foo. (We can&#039;t just do d/dx e^foo = e^foo, we need the chain rule to find d/dx foo. In the case of plain old e^x, we have d/dx e^x = d/dx x * e^x = 1 * e^x = e^x.)&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;Hope that helps.&lt;/p&gt;]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://betterexplained.com/articles/how-to-understand-derivatives-the-quotient-rule-exponents-and-logarithms/#comment-567560">Fahim Huq</a>.</p>
<p>This was a tricky example. Starting with our function h(x) = x^x, we want to take the derivative. We have the power rule for the derivative of things like x^2, x^3, etc. But we don't have a rule for how to take derivatives where the variable is the *exponent*, not the base (2^x, 3^x).</p>
<p>The closest is e^x, where we know d/dx e^x = e^x.</p>
<p>So, if we can rewrite our exponent (x^x) into something that looks like e^foo, we know we can take the derivative.</p>
<p>Because e and natural log are inverse functions, they cancel each other out. So we have:</p>
<p>x = e^[ln(x)]</p>
<p>It's like taking the square of the square root: you get the original number back (e.g., x = [ sqrt(x) ]^2 ).</p>
<p>From here, we say</p>
<p>x^x = [ e^[ln(x)] ]^x</p>
<p>where we replace the first x (the base) with e^[ln(x)], then take that to the x power. This simplifies to:</p>
<p>e^[ln(x) * x]</p>
<p>which is something of the format e^foo. Now, we can finally take the derivative:</p>
<p>d/dx e^foo = d/dx foo * e^foo</p>
<p>where foo = ln(x) * x. The (1 + ln(x)) term is d/dx foo. (We can't just do d/dx e^foo = e^foo, we need the chain rule to find d/dx foo. In the case of plain old e^x, we have d/dx e^x = d/dx x * e^x = 1 * e^x = e^x.)</p>
<p>Hope that helps.</p>
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		By: Fahim Huq		</title>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 13 Jul 2019 18:37:52 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://betterexplained.com/articles/how-to-understand-derivatives-the-quotient-rule-exponents-and-logarithms/#comment-567560&quot;&gt;Fahim Huq&lt;/a&gt;.

&lt;p&gt;nevermind, I think I figured it out -- 1+ln(x) is the conversion factor. so that&#039;s we keep e^ln(x)x  (or, as kalid would put it, I think, e^foo) the same because derivative of e^foo is e^foo. Let me know if i&quot;m incorrect. thanks.&lt;/p&gt;]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://betterexplained.com/articles/how-to-understand-derivatives-the-quotient-rule-exponents-and-logarithms/#comment-567560">Fahim Huq</a>.</p>
<p>nevermind, I think I figured it out -- 1+ln(x) is the conversion factor. so that's we keep e^ln(x)x  (or, as kalid would put it, I think, e^foo) the same because derivative of e^foo is e^foo. Let me know if i"m incorrect. thanks.</p>
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		By: Fahim Huq		</title>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 13 Jul 2019 18:09:50 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[&lt;p&gt;in the quotient rule (the Hairy example) section :&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;&quot;If h=x^x, the final result is:&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;h`(x) = 1+ln(x).e^ln(x)x &quot;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;i&#039;m quite lost here.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;What rule is being used here to get this from ... h(x) = e^ln(x)x ?&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;From what I understand, we evaluated the change on the exponent ln(x)x in terms of changes in x. That&#039;s how we get 1+ln(x). Do I have it right so far?&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;Then we go back to h(x) = e^ln(x)x.  What rule was used next? The power rule?&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;if yes, then I&#039;m quite confused about where e^ln(x)x came back from.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;shouldn&#039;t it then be h`(x) =1+ln(x).e^ln(x)x -1?&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;Any help? Thanks.&lt;/p&gt;]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>in the quotient rule (the Hairy example) section :</p>
<p>"If h=x^x, the final result is:</p>
<p>h`(x) = 1+ln(x).e^ln(x)x "</p>
<p>i'm quite lost here.</p>
<p>What rule is being used here to get this from ... h(x) = e^ln(x)x ?</p>
<p>From what I understand, we evaluated the change on the exponent ln(x)x in terms of changes in x. That's how we get 1+ln(x). Do I have it right so far?</p>
<p>Then we go back to h(x) = e^ln(x)x.  What rule was used next? The power rule?</p>
<p>if yes, then I'm quite confused about where e^ln(x)x came back from.</p>
<p>shouldn't it then be h`(x) =1+ln(x).e^ln(x)x -1?</p>
<p>Any help? Thanks.</p>
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		By: Laura Houghton		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Laura Houghton]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 27 Jun 2017 23:07:57 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://betterexplained.com/articles/how-to-understand-derivatives-the-quotient-rule-exponents-and-logarithms/#comment-335324&quot;&gt;Laura Houghton&lt;/a&gt;.

&lt;p&gt;Okay I get it. (e^x)^2 = e^2x but e^(x^2) doesn&#039;t equal e^2x except at x=2.&lt;/p&gt;]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://betterexplained.com/articles/how-to-understand-derivatives-the-quotient-rule-exponents-and-logarithms/#comment-335324">Laura Houghton</a>.</p>
<p>Okay I get it. (e^x)^2 = e^2x but e^(x^2) doesn't equal e^2x except at x=2.</p>
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