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		<title>By: haripria</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 07 Sep 2010 14:09:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>you&#039;ve achieved making me understand</description>
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		<title>By: Kalid</title>
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		<dc:creator>Kalid</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 01 Sep 2010 19:28:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@Al: Great question. I&#039;d have to give this more thought, but one approach might be to break it into subproblems.

You know that getting 2 cards to 21 means having (10,11). Now, to get 3 cards to 21, instead of starting from scratch, why not start from the first two (10,11)? Choose one of the cards to &quot;break apart&quot;, for example 10 =&gt; 4,6. So you get ((4,6), 11). I think one approach would be to figure out how to recursively break apart the pieces (You can again break 6 into (1,5)).

Off the top of my head, that&#039;s my first instinct for approaching it :).</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Al: Great question. I&#8217;d have to give this more thought, but one approach might be to break it into subproblems.</p>
<p>You know that getting 2 cards to 21 means having (10,11). Now, to get 3 cards to 21, instead of starting from scratch, why not start from the first two (10,11)? Choose one of the cards to &#8220;break apart&#8221;, for example 10 =&gt; 4,6. So you get ((4,6), 11). I think one approach would be to figure out how to recursively break apart the pieces (You can again break 6 into (1,5)).</p>
<p>Off the top of my head, that&#8217;s my first instinct for approaching it <img src='http://betterexplained.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> .</p>
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		<title>By: Al</title>
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		<description>Hi Kalid,

Great website you&#039;ve got here, as an engineer my maths is pretty good, but statistics is one area of maths I&#039;ve never studied.  Your explanations are better than most I&#039;ve come across on mathematics websites and textbooks.

I have a question that I wonder if there is an easy answer to:

&#039;How many permutations of 4 cards (value 1 to 11) sum to a value of 21?&#039;

I can do this the long way, but I&#039;m looking for a method or formula to speed up the process.

For example, for 2 cards there are 2 permutations that total 21:

10 , 11
11 , 10

for 3 cards there are x permutations that total 21:

1 , 9 , 11
1 , 10, 10
1, 11, 9
2, 8, 11
2, 9, 10
etc.

By the time I consider 4 cards however, this method is too long-winded and cumbersome to be of any use.

Do you know of a quicker way to arrive at the answer than simply listing all of the permutations and counting them?

Thanks.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Kalid,</p>
<p>Great website you&#8217;ve got here, as an engineer my maths is pretty good, but statistics is one area of maths I&#8217;ve never studied.  Your explanations are better than most I&#8217;ve come across on mathematics websites and textbooks.</p>
<p>I have a question that I wonder if there is an easy answer to:</p>
<p>&#8216;How many permutations of 4 cards (value 1 to 11) sum to a value of 21?&#8217;</p>
<p>I can do this the long way, but I&#8217;m looking for a method or formula to speed up the process.</p>
<p>For example, for 2 cards there are 2 permutations that total 21:</p>
<p>10 , 11<br />
11 , 10</p>
<p>for 3 cards there are x permutations that total 21:</p>
<p>1 , 9 , 11<br />
1 , 10, 10<br />
1, 11, 9<br />
2, 8, 11<br />
2, 9, 10<br />
etc.</p>
<p>By the time I consider 4 cards however, this method is too long-winded and cumbersome to be of any use.</p>
<p>Do you know of a quicker way to arrive at the answer than simply listing all of the permutations and counting them?</p>
<p>Thanks.</p>
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